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She was magnificent.
I love her.
And I just want to say Thank You again, Petulant, for making these videos available. You truly lol your awesome!
Thank you Petulant for posting these. You know what got me, all the pictures of she, her mother and daughter, it made me want to call my mom and tell her how important she is to me (I guess she reminds me of my mom, like many younger feminists have said, and for me that makes me admire her even more).
"Aides to Mrs. Clinton say she may start her own organized effort on behalf of femalewomen’s concerns, tapping her list of millions of supporters and donors and perhaps using her political action committee"
Link: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/us/politics/2...
Glorious, hopeful goosebumps.
/swoon
I took a screen capture of that. I want proof for after they fix it. That is just stoopid!
At the same time, advisers said, Mrs. Clinton wanted to ensure that her star turn at the convention could never be portrayedblamed a as insufficiently enthusiastic, should Mr. Obama lose the election in part because swaths of her supporters ultimately did not vote for him.
Where are their editors??
/derail
Hey, I like that new word.
Thats why I feel that all the wailing about poll percentages and defections to McCain are rather silly. (11% of registered Democrats voted for Bush in 2004.) Throughout this election, the Democrats have broken both cash and voter participation records by absurd margins, even when the Republican race was competitive.
I took a screen capture of it as well, and did a quick and dirty blog post on it--credit to trishb for noticing it. I plan on updating it tomorrow when the changes are made.
Womanistmusings, I respect Clinton a great deal and voted for her because she was more closely aligned with my politics and what I was looking for in a president. Even though she's withdrawn, I still have those political principles and criteria, and her urging me to vote for Obama does nothing to ameliorate the fact that he doesn't meet either of those. I respect Clinton. I don't uncritically obey her.
I haven't watched the video(s) yet because I know they're going to make me blub and I just can't deal with that right now. (Am wrangling with computer problems so I don't need anything else to be upset about.) Once I do watch the speech, I'm sure I'm going to be wowed by HRC for the zillionth time. I love her. But I wanted to say thank you in advance, Petulant, for doing all this work for us. You are very appreciated, as I'm sure you've noticed by now!
As a Cannuck I certainly do not have as much at stake as American women do. I simply find it disheartening to watch Clinton fans tear Obama apart when he is clearly the lesser of evils. Whether Clinton had won the nomination or not I simply do not believe in change from within. I understand that her supporters are hurting tonight watching her brilliant delivery, however her message was clear to anyone watching. I do however believe that all of the threats about abstaining from voting or voting for McCain as a lash back because she did not get elected is not a way forward. Unless you are actively involved in a movement from below, then you must participate in the system as it exists. A failure to act period, is more damaging to women over all.
Seriously, can we please not do this again now? Please?
I'm just exhausted of it. I can't take it anymore.
Not at all. Credit where it's due.
Will do, sorry Liss.
And she really showed up for that. I can't imagine what it cost her, but she did it with so much grace and courage and style that I am just wowed.
I feel a little like J. Goff -- like that was what I needed to put my support behind Obama -- I'm just not *quite* there yet. I really, really hope that when it is Obama's turn to speak on Thursday, he will reach out particularly to women, that he'll pick up where Clinton left off. I hope he won't try to erase her, or "move on." I want to know that he has the kind of courage and class and sensitivity that she has -- that he can be *my* leader in her stead. I think that the least he can do, if he has half as much class as she has, is pay sincere ribute to her and acknowledge the loss her supporters have suffered..
It's not too late for him to earn my vote. I'm waiting.
Repeated, just for emphasis.
Now if he can just do that last 10%*, and indicate he's not tone-deaf about women's issues...
* A man benefits where a woman does the lion's share of the work. That's new, isn't it?
And her speech--rising and falling and flowing as easily as breathing--all the power and charisma they've refused to credit her with so many times before, finally so evident it couldn't be ignored (and so sweet to see pundits left speechless, stumbling to find a way to actually praise Hillary after fifteen years of sneering, raw contempt and sexist snark). And invoking Stephanie & Harriet & Seneca Falls & the line of womanhood down through the ages--what a great marriage of content and delivery--a message of pride in being female, instead of the usual shame porridge regularly doled out.
I didn't cry (I was cheering her on, too blazed up to weep) until CNN interviewed an African American woman who was a Hillary delegate; Malveaux herself was shaken when she ended the interview, touched by the raw emotion and loss and sense of pride in this woman's voice as she said to Malveaux, "As you rip Hillary's speech to pieces--and you know you people in the press will try--you know what you saw tonight. This was Presidential. Hillary was Presidential. And I don't know what to do about that".
Her voice was careful and quiet (she was clearly holding herself together so hard for the cameras, the weight of it all very heavy on her) and even with the tears, it still felt fitting, because this--this wondering and thinking and finally deciding on your own vote--this is what the suffragettes dreamed for all of us, eighty-eight years ago.
To be a woman, with a vote.
To be a woman, with a vote.
Okay, Lola, *you* made me cry. I was well on the way there with the video clip, and then I saw that. To be a woman, with a vote. Indeed.
I hate that it is nearly impossible for anyone to vote their conscience in our political system and still achieve their goals. I really hope that this primary galvanizes everyone to change the nomination process for the better and/or work for third party candidates for local, state and congressional elections. Some of the ire directed at both Hillary and Barack seemed to stem from not just their behavior or their personalities or their policies (or sexism or racism) but from our utter lack of real choices and the skewed nature of the nomination process.
A centrist with a penchant for religiousity and a strange love of "free market" economists and a centrist who voted for the Iraq War do not generally inspire me and certainly do not present much of a contrast to Republicans despite the historic nature of both their campaigns. I watched Shirley Chisolm 72 the other night and it made me wonder if we should imagine more for ourselves politically, stop trying to be so overly strategic and start being more determined. Maybe we need to lose more frequently but lose well. I ramble and I apologize but the speech was inspiring and I am processing it still.
Because... seriously, that was beautiful. I know it won't silence all her critics, by any means, but it was worth fighting for, and hopefully at least a few of her detractors will see that.
I'm only 24, so the Clinton family has been background noise for me for most of my life. I guess I never really got past Hilary as an abstract concept, except in the context of this election. I've felt kinship with her in the last nineteen months, but mostly in response to misogynistic attacks--I could see that she and I had shared experiences but they were, ya know, experiences that suck.
Last night, though, I felt that my connection with her was a positive thing. I've never been a huge supporter of hers--defender, yes, but not supporter--but I think last night was the first time I really understand where her supporters were getting their fervor.
One thing I really loved: She actually sounded like a progressive!
I know she's been fighting for proper recognition at the convention. Was the chance to make last night's speech one of the things she was fighting for?
I don't recall hearing anything certain about what the Obama camp wanted, but I know there were a lot of people who didn't think she should get a prominent spot to speak.
That's why I'm voting Cthulhu in '08. Why settle for the lesser evil?
Also turned off the TV before the pundits came on. Though I had CBS on because I'm a dork and can't find C-SPAN on my cable guide, and I SOOOOO wanted to put a tissue through the screen and wipe that stray glob of mascara off Katie Couric's face. The makeup people at CBS hate her, apparently.
As I'm poking through the news this morning, I'm seeing a lot of "Great speech! But did she really mean it? And it's still her job to unify the party! And What About Bill? Will he make it All About HIm tonight?"
Clearly, she can't win.
Today's also the roll call. I'm hearing different things about this even today. There will be a secret ballot, and only the state totals will be announced; or it's going to be cut short; or it won't go forward.
OFFS. Don't make a show of being afraid of democracy, especially not after that RBC meeting where it was clear they'd determined the outcome before they even got there. Don't make a show of treating the first viable female candidate for president differently than men who didn't even do as well as she did. And for Maude's sake, don't deny her delegates a chance to record their historic vote, especially the day after the anniversary of the certification of the 19th Amendment.
Remember, folks: the Republicans have eyes! They can see all this very well for themselves.
Hillary broke my oversoul glass ceiling! WOOHOO!!
I agree with you, Astraea. (Shocker!) I've never seen Clinton adopt the scornful, scolding tone with her supporters to which so many in the fauxgressive blogosphere are addicted. She made a case, couched it in respectful terms, and tried to influence her supporters - not bully them. In fact, she was so good at it that she almost convinced me.
The fauxgressives are "seeing" that because it's what they want to see. It validates their feelings of smug superiority over all those silly wimminz who won't just shut up, get in line and get them some coffee already. But Clinton doesn't feel that way about PUMAs. My sense is that she really does get it, she really does understand where they're coming from, and she really does sympathize. I think she has far too much respect for the people who supported her to lecture or bully them as the blogger boyz and the fun folks at Mostly Shitty 'N Biased Coverage do.
love it!
Exactly. I thought her quote from Tubman expressed that, too.
I have to admit I haven't followed Clinton all that closely before in that I haven't seen a lot of her speeches before the primary, so a lot of my impressions of her were second-hand and based on votes. But it seems like this fight has reawakened her feminism and her passion for her causes. Not that she hasn't fought for them before in her time as Senator, but it seemed like the need to be a politician sort of overshadowed her passion for a while.