DISQUS

Shakesville: 'Bobbi with a I' and I

  • CaitieCat · 5 months ago
    Hey - that's kinda cool. It's one of those little things that speak to how much the world has changed in the seventeen years since I stepped over the line. Not a place I'd have expected to find positive messages about accepting people for who they are, that's for sure! :)
  • calixti · 5 months ago
    Wow. I grew up on country music, but I'm always turned off by God, guns, dogs, and trucks--subjects which seem to be big in a lot of songs, for a lot of artists. Not to mention casual sexism and misogyny, also prevalent in the genre (or, well, any entertainment, but it bugs me most in music for some reason). And while this makes me kind of want to add Phil Vassar to my List of Country Artists Who Don't Suck (includes the Dixie Chicks and Martina McBride), the lines "You better watch what you drink/He might look better than you think" strike me as a bit homophobic. And the prequel to the video? DNW.
  • alexmac · 5 months ago
    It is really interesting to see a somewhat positive light on a crossdresser in a country song. Maybe things are changing, even if it is a bit slow for too many.
  • justnick · 5 months ago
    As for Miss Porkchop Parker, all I will say is Yes, Please. Give us more. Kicked off Drag Race far too soon.
  • calixti · 5 months ago
    On another note now that I've rewatched it, does EVERY music video have to have scantily clad young women shaking their tits and ass for the camera? Or do artists not know how to make a video that isn't exploitative?
  • gwyllion · 5 months ago
    the song itself - OK - the video i agree with calixti above - totally exploitative and with Bobbi as a 'joke' girl, and with all the hot babes fawning all over him defeats any redeeming value of a song that explores tolerance/gender roles. Reminds me of the beer commercial a few years ago where all the guys dressed up as 'ladies' to get into a bar for free beer - which actually was more provocative and courageous because it had the men actually acting (trying to) act like women and finding they kind of enjoyed it a la Jack Lemmon in Some Like It Hot:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLrrFxXZ3rk
  • samanthab · 5 months ago
    I love old school country music and also the female artists that calixti mentions above, but, wow, musically-speaking, that is a total crap song. Which, in a sense, is encouraging. When crap country songs are encouraging open-mindedness...cool.
  • Svente · 5 months ago
    Maybe I'm missing something - and I hope I am - but I don't see how filming a video that undercuts the lyrics is good for crossdressers and/or trans folks.

    To me the message is it's cool and funny for a man to wear a dress IF you are actually: a straight man; big enough to be physically intimidating; capable of fighting effectively; putting one over on those unfair "ladies nights" bars; and have a ton of friends who are regulars at said bar.

    I don't see that translating into an actual trans person or cross dresser going into a random country bar and not being hassled.
  • Reba · 5 months ago
    I live in a small town (pop. 1400) in the middle of corn fields. When we first moved here, I was sure I'd relocated to the town time forgot, but I slowly realized that my own prejudices had kept me from really seeing people in the town. There were more tattoos and piercings than expected. No one thought twice about the girl with blue hair. And at the Liar's Table, where the farmers all gathered on Saturday morning to pretend things were going better than they possibly could be, no one seemed to care much about the fact that one of the men was wearing make up, earings, and a woman's blouse, tied up at the waist. I guess it was too early for his signature short-shorts, because he was in jeans that morning. Everyone knows this guy. They don't even comment on his mowing the lawn in his bikini. They know his history and his family and that's just how he is. Talk about having my own blinders removed, way out here in flyover country.
  • LenaD · 4 months ago
    Sorry the delayed reply, I was out of town this weekend. Anyway...

    I agree there's a tinge of homophobia in the "You better watch what you drink" line. That said, I think it has more to do with the cliches around the "known crossdresser" (i.e. everyone knows Bobbi = Bobby") that are similar, but different, from the cliches about transsexual women that Julia Serrano critique.

    (Serrano points out portrayals of transsexual women tend to be the "pathetical transsexual," who's hopelessly masculine no matter how hard she "tries" to be a woman; and conversely the "deceptive transexual" who's too successful and "fools" people in to thinking that she's someone "she's actually not." In both cases, these cliches fundamentally dispute that transsexual women are women.)

    In the case of the "known crossdresser" is seems there's two cliches, both of which revolve around disbelief: disbelief that a man could convincing appear and act "like a woman;" and disbelief that a man would want to be seen as, and treated as, a women. I.e. effemina-phobia, which as Serano points out, is all too common, even in feminist thinking. (Or one reason femme lesbians don't always get a lot of respect either.)

    So from Milton Berle to Monty Python to Rudy Giuliani, portrayals of crossdressers tend to be of ones who are "unconvincing." For comedy, part of it is probably simply the visual incongruity (make-up and beard shadow), since visual incongruity is a staple of all sorts of comedy. OTOH, the "art of transformation" is something that people often seem fascinated with. I get colored polish put on when I go for pedicures, and that means I end up telling a lot of women at the salon that I do drag. If they see some pictures, usually the reaction is along the lines of: "OMG, I can't believe that's you!" Interestingly, female impersonators were extremely popular during the late 1800s/early 1900s, often playing the biggest, and best, theaters in town, and there was a similar fascination. (FWIW, most of these female impersonators were hetero, as far as we can tell, and no one really questioned that.)

    But OTOH being intentionally "unconvincing" does seem to be often done for distancing reasons — i.e. the crossdresser doesn't really want to be seen as, treated as, a woman, which is a lot less threatening to people's comfort in the gender binary. I noticed both straight guys who crossdress for Halloween and gay who drag it up for Pride, both seem give cues -- subtly or overtly -- that they're "all male" no matter how "realistic" an appearance they may have. Admittedly, it may be projection on my part. Learning to blend in as a woman is something that took a bit of work on my part (learning nuances of body language, patterns of speech etc.), and it often hard for someone who's male-bodied to speak in a way that perceived as someone female-bodied.

    Are the song/video perfect? By no means. But it was intriguing to me that both Vassar and his record company thought that the song was worthy being the lead single from the album -- and that the subject matter wouldn't be off-putting to listeners (or at least enough to prevent it from being a hit).

    @ calixi — Yeah, the scantily clad young women were annoying. I didn't bother to comment on it because it's so pervasive.

    @ Reba — That's very cool. Just a good reminder that things aren't always what we think they are.